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#1 EverythingIsBleeping

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Posted 26 March 2023 - 06:27 PM

Hi there,
 
I am building a new PC and have created two different builds I am considering. I would like very much that you guys review those builds whether they are functional and if you like comment on what you would build differently.

 
The first build is based on the Intel i5-12600K and the second is a cheaper build based on the Ryzen 5 5600 (not the X-Variant). I will list the parts I have selected specifically for each build and after that the parts that are the same for both.

 

The Intel Build

 

1. Motherboard: MSI MPG Z690 Force WIFI

 

2. Processor: Intel Core i5-12600K

 

3. Memory: Corsair Vengeance black DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR5-6000, CL36-38-38-76, on-die ECC

 

 

The AMD Build

 

1. Motherboard: GIGABYTE B550M AORUS Pro-P

 

2. Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 5600

 

3. Memory: G.Skill RipJaws V black DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3200, CL16-18-18-38

 

also a WIFI card cause the MoBo doesn't have one build in.

 

 

Common Parts

 

4. Power supply: Cooler Master V-Series V750 Gold V2 White Edition 750W  (Black edition is a bit cheaper, but white looks nicer; also for AMD build 650W would be enough, but costs almost the same as the 750W)

 

5. Solid State Drive: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB, M.2 (for games and programs)

 

6. Hard disk drive: Seagate BarraCuda Compute 4TB (for storing video, audio and pictures)

 

7. Video card: 8GB XFX Radeon RX 580 GTS Black (a bit old, but I already have one that I barely used)

 

8. Blu-Ray drive:  ASUS BW-16D1HT (I still have lots of CDs and DVDs I may need to read, so why not upgrade to Blu-Ray while I am at it)

 

9. Operating System: Windows 11

 

10. CPU Cooler: will be determined later, I don't think I can make much wrong there as long as it fits the MOBO and is strong enough for the CPU (which I will not overclock as that is not my thing)

 

11. Case: will be determined later, but ATX formfactor, even though the B550M AORUS Pro-P is µATX

 

12. Thermal Compound: I will try a graphite pad


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 12:28 AM

1. What is this desktop to be used for  such as work, editing, coding, general use, gaming, media consumption, audio, etc.? Maybe for games and media but some demanding games or easier on the system type of games? Monitor resolution - 1080 or 1440 resolution?

2. Do you plan to upgrade this in the future (or near future) and with what newer components if upgrading?

3. Prefer which one better - AMD or Intel?

4. Ballpark figure on the total cost outlay?

5. Your present system can be upgraded as it is now or is not possible - what is the presently used system?


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 03:49 AM

1. What is this desktop to be used for  such as work, editing, coding, general use, gaming, media consumption, audio, etc.? Maybe for games and media but some demanding games or easier on the system type of games? Monitor resolution - 1080 or 1440 resolution?

 

General use, work and gaming. Also demanding games, but I am fine with playing them on lower settings for the time being, as the graphics card is not the best. Especially with 1440p resolution on my Monitor.

 

 

2. Do you plan to upgrade this in the future (or near future) and with what newer components if upgrading?

 

Hence I plan to upgrade the graphics card at some point in the future when it is not sufficient anymore. The rest should stay as it is for atleast the next 5 years to be worth the cost.

 

 

3. Prefer which one better - AMD or Intel?

 

I prefer the Intel one.

 

 

4. Ballpark figure on the total cost outlay?

 

I have no plan on how much I want to spend or an upper limit. Instead I made the build I ideally want (Intel) and a budget option (AMD).

With the current parts the Intel Build costs 1.087,17 € (~1.170,75$) while the AMD Build costs 799,53 € (~861,23$). So a difference of around 300 € or $. ( At the end it will be a around 100-200€ more for both builds with the case and cooler being added).

On the one hand that is a lot of money and around 25% reduction in cost. But on the other it would take me about two months of saving money to get 300€ together, so it would be far from ruining me financially.

Especially if I convert it into price per month for a certain time. If I use the Intel build for 5 years it costs me 18,12€ per month, 13,33€ for the AMD (not including energy costs where the Intel costs more than the AMD again).
 

 

5. Your present system can be upgraded as it is now or is not possible - what is the presently used system?

 

Current System:

CPU: Intel i5-2500k

MoBo: ASUS P8P67

RAM: 16 GB DDR3

SSD: 128 GB SATA

HDD: 1x3TB + 1x1TB

Video card: RX 460

PSU: 530W

 

MoBo, CPU, PSU, the 1 TB HDD and the SSD are all 10 years old. I would have to replace those just for age. The RAM is outdated, the RX 460 too and the 3TB HDD is so cheap it's easier to leave it in my old system and just get a new one.

So overall a completely new System is in order.


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 04:46 AM

! look and read before jumping.  The basics start with the Chip and the Ram Speed.  Suggest look at the Spec Sheets.  Also look at the M/B Support Pages and the Compatibility Page/s.

 

Just because a Motherboard can take 6000Mhz does not mean the chip can.

 

MSI : https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z690-FORCE-WIFI/support#cpu

 

Your Intel i5-12600K : Up to DDR5 4800  or  Up to DDR4 3200

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134589/intel-core-i512600k-processor-20m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

Intel® processors come in four different types: Single Channel, Dual Channel, Triple Channel, and Flex Mode. Maximum supported memory speed may be lower when populating multiple DIMMs per channel on products that support multiple memory channels.

 

How you got spot on for the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 I will never know.  Spec Sheet : https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-5600

GIGABYTE B550M AORUS Pro-P  ===   Need to figure out if buying a (rev 1.0) or a (rev 1.1)   Note  top left of the page after the name of the board choose (rev 1.0) or a (rev 1.1) as they are different boards and of course the (rev 1.1) is better.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-AORUS-PRO-P-rev-10/support#support-doc

 

ASUS P8P67 : which you do not say what (rev) it is nor if that is the corect name as there are : P8P67, LE, PRO , (Rev3.1) (3.0)     NOT going to look further, supply correct info.

 

Suggest use partspicker : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/  choose Country top right.  Use builder and see wattage needed, Warnings and Compatibility problems.


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 04:48 AM

Nice. You gave lots of information. Thank you. 
 
OK. This is what I personally think about this. Do that Intel build which is what you really want anyways, or build a newer AMD AM 5 (not the older series 4).  The newer AMD platform is supported for two more years, so you could get something like a AMD Ryzen 5 7600 (non X) for now to use and then do a good upgrade in the future. Whereas the Intel build can be only upgraded perhaps to a 13 generation series i7  and then no more possible upgrades.
 
The AMD 7600 is reasonably priced, uses only 65 watts TDP and runs cooler. It comes with a stock cooler and is pre-pasted so no need for buying thermal compound or a cooler (in the immediate future, maybe later on).  Also, the AMD 5 7600 has basically the same performance as the Intel Core  i5-12600k, whereas the AMD 5600 is not as strong as the Intel 5 12600k. 
 
And in two years from now if possible then get a newer AMD CPU and use that one for many years. So, instead of a proposed five years use from the build, you could get maybe seven years enjoyment from the build. Or still go with the AMD AM4 series but don't get the 5600 and instead get a 5700x (or 5800x) or the 5800X3D  - these are better. Especially the 5800X3D as it is tops for gaming (most games but not all) as it has the extra CPU cache and games that are more CPU demanding have very good results with the 5800X3D.
 
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Posted 27 March 2023 - 10:59 AM

Also, the AMD 5 7600 has basically the same performance as the Intel Core  i5-2500k, whereas the AMD 5600 is not as strong as the Intel 5 12600k.


I think you meant 12500k...

Edited by RevGAM, 27 March 2023 - 11:00 AM.

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Posted 27 March 2023 - 12:25 PM

LOL actually meant to say 12600K, not 2500k. My bad. Glad you caught my mistake. I make a lot of mistakes anyways so I am very used to this, over my life time.

Fixed the original post.

Thank you.

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4603vs5172/Intel-i5-12600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-7600


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 12:36 PM

Lol! No worries!

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Posted 27 March 2023 - 01:45 PM

"12. Thermal Compound: I will try a graphite pad"

 

Stay with the thermal compound and not a pad. Pads aren't really meant for CPU uses. Pads are basically or originally meant for GPUs and the card's components. Paste is best for the CPU. 


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 01:51 PM

"8. Blu-Ray drive:  ASUS BW-16D1HT (I still have lots of CDs and DVDs I may need to read, so why not upgrade to Blu-Ray while I am at it)"

 

I would look for a motherboard with the better audio specs and features - if watching a lot of movies or listening to music, then good audio maybe a consideration in choosing the board. 


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 01:53 PM

"also a WIFI card cause the MoBo doesn't have one build in."

 

Considered a board with WiFi built in?


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 01:54 PM

"1. Motherboard: GIGABYTE B550M AORUS Pro-P"

 

Elite series from GIGABYTE is maybe better.


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 01:56 PM

"1q2. Thermal Compound: I will try a graphite pad"
 
Stay with the thermal compound and not a pad. Pads aren't really meant for CPU uses. Pads are basically meant for GPUs and the card's components. Paste is best for the CPU.


I believe they're also used in laptops...

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Posted 27 March 2023 - 01:57 PM

Oh didn't know that. But for a desktop CPU? 


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Posted 27 March 2023 - 04:07 PM

Oh didn't know that. But for a desktop CPU? 

AFAIK it's not recommended to substitute thermal compound with a pad.


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