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With a 1000 mbps connect & 4 devices, what speed should each device be getting?


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#1 infobleep

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Posted 20 October 2023 - 10:46 AM

Hi there

I have just switched from Plus Net to YouFibre in the UK.

I was previously on a 76 Mbps copper connection and now I'm on a 1000 Mbps fibre connection as it will be useful for my work, which can involve a lot of data transfer at times.

I have four devices connected.
Amazon Firestick
Samsung Galaxy Note 9
MacBook Air via ethernet
Dell work laptop via ethernet but running through a work VPN.

I ran various speed tests but I don't think I'm getting a high enough speed. I was only getting 140 Mbps download and 180 Mbps upload in my MacBook Air plugged directly into the supplied router, although it did vary a bit with the downloads and it wasn't always as high as that

With only 4 devices connected, shouldn't those figures be higher?

One lady on the phone said each device would have a limit. I accept that but if three devices aren't doing that much, in a speed test I would expect over 600 Mbps for one device that was.

With Plus Net my download was 76 Mbps so this isn't even double that for downloads.

As my work laptop runs through a VPN I couldn't test that. So I had to use my own MacBook Air. For various reasons I won't go into nos, it is a 2013 model and I did the test in a virtual Windows 7. I do accept that is an old setup but I own nothing newer myself to test on and there are reasons why I still need that setup. I mostly use my work laptop.

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Posted 20 October 2023 - 01:44 PM

If the hardware of the device cannot handle the higher speeds,  you won't get them even if it's the only device plugged in.


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Posted 20 October 2023 - 05:49 PM

!Thanks for the reply.

How do I find out what my hardware can support?

For example my MacBook Air 2013 model has a 5 Gbps Thunderbilt port and I'm using 1 Gbps Ethernet to thunderbolt adaptor with a Cat 6A cable.

So how I do find out the maximum it can support, if it isn't 1 Gbps, given the Thunderbolt port is 5 Gbps?

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Posted 20 October 2023 - 06:35 PM

Go to www.speedtest.net

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Posted 20 October 2023 - 07:04 PM

The maker of the parts will have on there Support Pages what their top speed is.

 

You may also want to think about your Drivers and your BIOS

 

As well top speed has been mentioned and you are running a 20 year old MacBook Air 2013 and seem to expect will run at modern system speeds.

This is completely impossible to do with hardware and software changes since 2013.


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Posted 22 October 2023 - 05:08 PM

The maker of the parts will have on there Support Pages what their top speed is.
 
You may also want to think about your Drivers and your BIOS
 
As well top speed has been mentioned and you are running a 20 year old MacBook Air 2013 and seem to expect will run at modern system speeds.
This is completely impossible to do with hardware and software changes since 2013.

I did try to look up what my MacBook Air could support but I was struggling to find the stats required. I know it supports 300 Gbps WiFi and the Thunderbolt port supports 5 Gbps and I have a 1 Gbps Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor.

So with those I expected it to support 1 Gbps Internet. I now accept it may not do but I was struggling to find out what it's limits actually are when teh speed I expected wasn't achieved.

If they are lower than that I would have expected them to be recorded somewhere. They may be recorded and I've just not located them online.

Given I had a 1 Gbps wired network put in 12 years ago, I just assumed my laptops would support 1 Gbps Internet as they were newer.

Comparing my Samsung Galaxy Note 9, Samsung Tab S2, Moto G50 ane Macbook Air over WiFi in the upstairs room above the router, I noticed the following:
Fastest device for upload and download was the Note 9 at around 330 for download and 235 for upload.
Next the G50. Download speeds are over around 260 and upload close to 180. The G50 is newer than the Note 9, which is almost 5 years old.
Next was my Macbook Air. Here uploads were faster than downloads. Downloads was around 130-140 and uploads around 150-180.
Finally was the Samsung Tab S2. Around 90 for downloads and 80 for uploads.

All in cases Google consideree the Internet connection to be very fast. The Google speed test Dail only goes to 100 Mbps. Probably time for a revised one for faster Internet speeds, whilst keeping that one for lower speeds.

Interestingky my VPN on my Amazon Firestick was much more stable this evening, even though it was only getting 20 Mbps over WiFi in my speed test. I wasn't expecting that.

As for Wierd, my Macbook Air was getting similar results as to if it was on WiFi.

The blurb on the promotional card for my WiFi provider said in relation to my perticular package, "Average speeds are 920 Mbps on a 1Gbps connection and are achievable by 50% of users. 1000 Mbps speeds are only achievable via a wired connection and not over Wi-Fi."

If none of my devices are capable on 1000 or even 920, assuming I'm in the 50%, what devices out there are?

Would the latest Macbook Air support it? What about PCs running Windows?

Where can one go to find this information out?

I still require my Macbook Air but at some point I could get a newer one, whist keeping the one I own for the purpose it's still needed for.

Edited by infobleep, 22 October 2023 - 05:09 PM.


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Posted 22 October 2023 - 05:17 PM

Do you have a gigabit network port on the Mac?

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 03:39 PM

Do you have a gigabit network port on the Mac?

Thanks for the reply. What I have is a 5 Gbps Thunderbolt port. Connected to this is a Gigabit Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor that Apple sell. I have no actually physical ethernet port as it is a MacBook Air.


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Posted 25 October 2023 - 03:45 PM

What router do you have?

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 08:16 PM

What router do you have?

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 08:33 PM

Does your router offer a speedtest to isp?

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Posted 26 October 2023 - 04:09 AM

Does your router offer a speedtest to isp?

No idea. I will look into it.



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Posted 27 October 2023 - 08:10 AM

You don't have any type of VPN connected on your Macbook when you're running these tests, do  you?



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Posted 28 October 2023 - 05:09 AM

You don't have any type of VPN connected on your Macbook when you're running these tests, do  you?

Thanks for your reply.

 

No I don't. I do have a VPN service that I pay for but the app is closed and not connected on my Macbook Air whilst the tests are run.

 

I got the stats from the route itself and it is 1000 speed so the issue is probably my devices.

Ethernet Statistics

Line State (Transport) Up

Current Speed 1000

Current Duplex full

Receive Packets 47257198

Transmit Packets 33904964

Receive Bytes 52601751524

Transmit Bytes 21264009135

Receive Unicast 45809580

Transmit Unicast 0

Receive Multicast 1447618

Transmit Multicast 1447618

Receive Dropped 146

Transmit Dropped 0

Receive Errors 0

Transmit Errors 0

Collisions 0
 

How the system currently runs is as follows.
 
Outside line to box in downstairs front room.
Wire goes into a network socket.
Cables in wall runs into dining room.
Wire from network socket into an unmanaged Planet gigabit switch.
From this a wire then runs to my router.
From the switch runs other wires to different parts of my house.
 
The upstairs front room is where I have run some tests and I have also run tests directly into the router. I also ran tests when the router was plugged directly into the box in the front room.
 
Now I am getting the same WiFi speeds on my mobile devices with it set up via the Planet switch, as I was when I had the router in the front room as initially installed.
 
So I think the switch is working a intended, as is the network around the house or the WiFi speeds would have dropped once the switch got involved. As it is the speeds from my Macbook Air are less than the Wifi speeds on my mobile devices in all cases.
 
Most cables are CAT 6 or CAT 6A but the one supplied with the router is CAT 5E. This cable is plugged between the router and the Planet switch.
 
Incidentally, my Macbook Air cannot get a dynamic IP address when it is running through the gigabit switch but can when directly plugged into the router. With my previous router it could connect via the switch and get a dynamic IP address.
 
Setting up a static IP address was a confusing process with the ARRIS system, compared to other routers I've used but I managed to do it and it now works. However, having done this it now won't let me access the router as it sees the direct IP address details of my supplier YouFibre. I'm sure that wasn't the case with previous routers I owned. I can though access the router via my WiFi.
 
My work computers VPN doesn't let me access the router and it never did with any of the previous ones. Maybe if I set up remote access with a URL it would.

Edited by infobleep, 28 October 2023 - 05:14 AM.





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