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software design patterns - beginner or hobbyist


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#1 cafejose

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Posted 19 July 2022 - 06:08 AM

Is a beginning programmer or someone who had no more than one programming course, from a few decades ago, 
equipped to understand the meaning of Software Design Patterns, and also able to recognize or understand a 
couple of them?  
 
Is a text-based menu-driven software program a clearly identifiable Software Design Pattern?
 
Could a hobbyist and beginner at "coding" learn to know some few software design patterns and be able
to choose one which would let him solve a applied problem for which he may create a software program
at his (possibly very limited) level?
 
(Assume that such person has no understanding at all about Object Oriented Programming, if this makes
any sense.)


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#2 MarkTwels

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Posted 03 August 2023 - 07:58 AM

I'm new to this forum, but I couldn't help but jump into this discussion because it brings back memories of when I started coding as a hobbyist. Back in the day, I had just one programming course and was eager to dive into software design patterns. To be honest, it was a bit overwhelming at first, but with some patience and practice, I managed to grasp the concept of a few patterns.



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Posted 18 August 2023 - 01:41 PM

cafejose, state the thing you actually want to write some software to do. Talking about a specific example is much easier than trying to consider more abstract ideas about patterns.
Back to visiting this site, every so often, been so busy in previous years.

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Posted 18 August 2023 - 05:44 PM

cafejose, state the thing you actually want to write some software to do. Talking about a specific example is much easier than trying to consider more abstract ideas about patterns.

I had become curious most generally.  I have no current program-writing plans.  I DID have some a few years ago, and I wrote a few programs to my more specific goals at that time.  

 

I tried to give one idea in my first post on topic; being a menu-based program, using text information presented to a user.  But I was not asking about any specific program.  I ask for identifying design patterns.  

 

Simple example could be,  linear interpolation.  But I already wrote one or two of them which worked very well; two of two-dimensional data pair, and user wants to know the part of another data pair; but once the program is made,  .... I wonder, Do programmers think according to any set of formal Design Patterns?  

 

Observe that I asked about this in July 2022, so that was a long while ago and I have done no program-making since before that time.  (Almost none; I can't remember too well...)



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Posted 14 October 2023 - 03:55 PM

Hi there. I was wondering why you stopped programming.



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Posted 15 October 2023 - 01:27 PM

Hi there. I was wondering why you stopped programming.

To be very brief (?), Introductory Programming back some decades ago was very very difficult for me.  I tried as much as possible to stay away from any further computer science/ computer programming.  Several years afterward,  I began trying and relearning through review of a couple of old textbooks, some internet community help, and improved greatly, but still never really became highly skilled.  I created or designed a few programs or applications according to my own interests.  Since then I relearned my programming skills at various times, occasionally creating some other / another program of a current interest.  FORMALLY,  I never studied beyond an introductory level.  INFORMALLY,  I learned a few things from the introductory level which I could not learn well when I was a formal student.  I today am basically stuck in a BASIC programming language.  Since school, I have only made programs in BASIC as a hobbyist.  I never wrote programs as a professional  (except for one , about ~23 years ago, and I wrote it in a form of BASIC).



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Posted 17 October 2023 - 11:01 AM

I see. By the way, I also programmed in BASIC at school. And we started with Turbo Pascal. I will never forget that blue screen. I used to dream of becoming a programmer and even bought courses to learn. But I got bored with it quickly. Or maybe I just couldn't sit at the computer for long.






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